So what happens in Stumbling into Infinity? Have you read the book Stumbling into Infinity by Michael Fishman? If you read the acknowledgement section, some are born great, some associate with greatness, some have greatness thrust upon them. I'm on the third category. I'm a useless guy where greatness has been thrust upon me.
So what happens? You know, I told you, right? In my house, there is a senior teacher. She's also my boss. She's the wife. When she says jump, I say how high? I don't say why. I say how high? So life is good. So Madhuri went for TTC. And she came back and at that time it was real TTC. I mean, now it is just a joke, but that time it was real TTC.
So she came back and the sankalpa was to organize a 100 people course. At that time, 100 people course in the United States was a big deal. So she came, she was fully charged up and she worked hard. She and one more guy, Hari, they worked hard and they got like 75-80 people something. And Mikey came to teach that course. Mikey, Michael Fishman, he came to teach the course. And he was living with a friend of ours. And somehow, I don't know how that happened, somehow that friend of ours was not very comfortable taking care of Mikey because Mikey is Michael Fishman. He's like the president of the Art of Living and comes with all this stuff. So they said, Sandeep, you deal with Mikey. You come and you take care of Mikey. I said, okay, I'll come. I had just done the Happiness Program. I had not done anything. I was not even doing Kriya. Forget regularly. I was mostly irregular in my Kriya. I was not even, forget regularly, irregularly. I was doing Kriya irregularly. Okay. So I had no nothing to lose. I said, fine, I'll take care of Mikey.
So I went and I made chai for him. He's a nice, he likes chai. So I also like chai. So I made chai for him. I made some breakfast. All this stuff, I was taking care of Mikey. And I just looking and seeing, and then I said, dude, this guy, this guy walks the talk. I mean, whatever he's saying, except people and this and that and that and that, he's totally doing this. So, okay. I don't mind being like this guy. Everybody else is just like, in my eyes, all losers. So I said, this guy is cool, man. Mikey.
And then what happened at that time, I had done some totally geeky stuff. This was like way back. This was, I want to say 2006, something. 2003, I did my course. So 2003, four, four, five, six, something like that. I had done something really geeky. What I had done was I had taken the Ashtavakra. At that time, there were VCDs. Remember video compact discs, VCD. Some random format. I had taken the Ashtavakra talks from that VCD and I had digitized them and put it on my iPod. The old Apple that, you know, the 32 gig, that old black thing looks like a cumbersome device now, but it was a pretty cool device at that time. The black iPod. I put it on that. And then when I was hanging out with Mikey, like everybody was there and I said, Mikey, I'll show you something. He says, okay, show me, show me something. I don't know. You know, Mikey talks like that. Show me something. I don't know. I said, I'll show you something you don't know. I connected my iPod to the TV and I played Ashtavakra and Ashtavakra came on TV and Mikey said, what have you done? He was like, total shock.
What has this happened? Because at that time, if you remember, the Silence Course teachers would travel with video cassettes and DVDs. So the organizers had to involve like 17 inputs just to show one video. What nonsense! So that was how it was at that time. So when I put this thing on the TV, Mikey was shocked. He says, "Wait a minute, what have you done?" So I showed him. You know, you take this disc and you run this program and it digitizes it and here's the input on the iPod. And now you have this connector and it goes on the TV. And a light bulb went off in his head. He says, "Wow! Now I can simplify the life of all the Silence Course teachers." Now if you look at today, all the Silence Course teachers, they come with only one iPod. All the videos are in the iPod. I'm the guy who started the digitization of that whole process. So now they can travel with one iPod. So this is what happened.
And then Mikey said, "Oh, this joker, he's not all that bad. Even if he does Kriya irregularly, if I give him some responsibility, he will do something." So then he says, "You know, Sandeep, I have written a book." "No, no, no, no, no. He played it very smart. He didn't tell me. He told Madhuri. He told Madhuri that Madhuri, I have written a book and I'd like someone to help me publish it." So Madhuri said, "Yes, yes, I will do." And I'm saying, "What the heck you will do? It's going to come on my head at the end of the day." And of course, it came on my head, but it was Mikey's way of getting me involved in the process. Because if he had asked me directly, I would have said no. So he asked Madhuri and when Madhuri asked me to do something, I cannot say no. He played a pretty good game, Mikey.
So anyway, so I got involved in that. And then we read the pre-publication version of the book. It was amazing. My God, I mean, I couldn't put it down. It was just brilliant. If you've seen the book, this is an edited version, but it's just as powerful. And I said, "Okay, good. I will get this published." Okay. So then what I did was, I didn't know how to get a book published. So I looked up and there were some things that you have to write a book proposal and this and that. So since I had read the book, I wrote my first version of the book proposal. It was a piece of crap work. It was completely bogus, useless. But it was a straw man. It was a framework. So I sent it to Mikey and he absolutely hated it. So he sent it to Jeffrey Ines. His name is also on the acknowledgement sheet. And Jeffrey is a writer. He's a professional writer. So he took my thing and he totally massaged it and wrote it properly. So that became the book proposal.
By that time, I was contacting all the publishers, sending emails and that. And for those four or five months, I was secretary to the president of the Art of Living. Because Michael Fishman was the president of the Art of Living and I was the secretary to the president. I'm like this big guy, you know, like that. So, okay, so Jeffrey did all the massaging of the book proposal. Once that happened, I started reaching out to all these publishers and we got rejection letters like every... No, sorry, no, so many rejection letters. I could plaster it on the ceiling of my whole house and I would have a beautiful ceiling with just rejection letters. It was so many of them. And eventually something happened and Harper Collins, somebody found Harper Collins and I sent it to Harper Collins. And eventually one editor liked it and he made some changes and Mikey edited it and now it's published.
So in the process, a lot of things happen. I mean, once Mikey called me and says, what are you going to do with yourself in your life? I said, huh? What do you mean? I'm helping you publish this book. What the heck? You're telling me what am I going to do with my life? I mean, okay, I know I'm a loser, but you don't have to say it to my face. Like, come on. And then he said, no, no, okay, what are you going to do? And then I said, I'll send some, I don't know what I said.
And then he played another smart trick. He sent this senior teacher from New York to come in because at that time we didn't have teachers. I mean, Madhuri was a teacher, but she was a teacher in the training. So Poonam came. Poonam Tandon. So Poonam came because Mikey sent Poonam. Then I interacted with Poonam and then Poonam said, why don't you start teaching? I said, what do you mean start teaching? Before I start teaching, I have to start doing Kriya less irregularly. So then Poonam said, come on, you can do it. So then I started doing my Kriya less irregularly or what people call regular.
Regularly. And then after that it became daily eventually, but it took me a long time, man. So that's how it all happened. So it's all Mikey and Madhuri is the thing. If Madhuri had not gone for TTC and Mikey had not, she had not organized this big course and Mikey would not have come, etc. I don't know, things would have been different. That's how it all happened. It was a good fun. For some time I was like one of these powerful secretary to the president type guys. It was all good. Yeah. That's the story.